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Podcast Season 3 Episode 5: Dr. Kristan Wilson

On this episode of the show, I'm interviewing Dr. Kristan Wilson, a holistic physician who takes a personalized, whole-body approach to conservative healthcare.  

Dr. Wilson specializes in functional medicine and is a classically trained, board-certified chiropractic physician and chiropractic acupuncturist. She takes great pride in treating everyone as an individual and taking the time necessary to treat the whole person. Her appointments are longer than most other practitioners, allowing her to take her time and make sure that all your concerns are addressed and treated to your satisfaction. 

Dr. Wilson wants her clients to be able to get out and experience life, not just survive it.

Website: https://luminouschirostl.com
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Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristan-wilson-dc-ms-ccac-52836b51/


This episode has been transcribed by otter. ai terminology and grammar may not be accurate. 

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STL Active aims to give listeners in the St. Louis area the information they need to succeed and progress with their health and fitness. This podcast is brought to you by St. Louis PT.com and hosted by Doctor of Physical Therapy, Greg Judice.


Hey everyone, it's Dr. Greg, owner, and physical therapist at Judice Sports and Rehab. On this episode of the show, I'm interviewing Dr. Kristan Wilson from Luminous Chiropractic and Wellness. She is a holistic physician who takes a personalized whole-body approach to conservative health care. She specializes in functional medicine and is a classically trained board-certified chiropractic physician and chiropractic acupuncturist and that is a mouthful. She also offers nutritional counseling, lab testing and interpretation, dietary supplementation, and muscle work using multiple specialized techniques that are tailored to everyone's unique needs. She takes great pride in treating everyone as an individual and taking the time necessary to treat the whole person. Her appointments are longer than most other practitioners, allowing her to take her time and make sure that all of your concerns are addressed and treated to your satisfaction. Without further ado, let's get into the interview with Dr. Kristen Wilson. Welcome, everyone. Today on the show. I've got Dr. Kristan Wilson from Luminous Chiropractic. Welcome to the show.


Thanks, Dr. Greg.


Well, I am super glad to have you. Before we have you introduce yourself, I do want to tell a quick story on you. Okay, okay. So, Kristen, and I met through a networking group, where we're meant to pass business back and forth. And historically, I have not been able to refer very well with chiropractors. We met even closer though, when I made a post on Facebook. And I was asking for support for physical therapy direct access. The funny thing is, both of us have had not great experiences with the other profession. I've had really great experiences with Kristan, but I've had not great experiences with other chiropractors. And she's had not great experiences with other PTs. So when I made this post on Facebook, I'm asking for support for physical therapy, direct access. And you know, three or four people comment and say, they're all in, they're going to send the thing and they're going to sign the thing and whatever change.org stuff. And then Kristan comes in, and absolutely pisses me off by saying something against direct access for PT, and I didn't know her well enough to like, be okay with that at the time. So it really aggravated me. And then we got into, you know, a classic Facebook argument that even moved to messenger. Oh, yeah, it did. It did. And
so I was pretty heated. And I had to get some advice to chill from my wife. But after the fact, after we talked in messenger, I realized that, you know, maybe that was kind of my own insecurity that was coming out there. I really took some time to understand her side of things, and really came to respect, Kristan, because she was able to challenge me. And I think that's important. Having people that are able to speak their mind, tell you what they really feel and not hold back, not pull the punches is really important. And I think that's super duper important when it comes to healthcare, because a lot of therapists, a lot of chiropractors, a lot of any practitioner, think they can fix everything. And I've never really thought that. But I do respect Kristan, and respected her opinion. Now, I still think direct access should be across the board for all PTs. And we can agree to disagree on that. However, I just wanted to introduce Kristan, with a little story of how we met. were great friends, great referral partners now. Happy to have you on the show. Dr. Kristan, welcome again, please, if you would introduce yourself to the audience.
Thank you. And yes we still disagree, but we always get along, which is a great thing. I'm Dr. Kristan Wilson. I own Luminous Chiropractic and Wellness in Shrewsbury Missouri. That's just probably 20 Minutes from Dr. Greg's office. I am living in Smithton so I get the fun of commuting every day, which I've actually found pretty beneficial so that I can decompress after a long day. I have been in practice private practice for five years. I've been in healthcare since 1998. From the other side, which means the allopathic side. I moved holistic in 2013 and when I left that world to go to Chiropractic school, and the whole, which was actually the reason for my life in the first place was to go to chiropractic school. I never thought back when I was, you know, 16-17 years old, when I graduate high school early, I never thought that, oh, I would, I would go and have this big distraction, you know, give an 18-year-old a full-time paycheck and keep them on track in school, that's for sure. But it gave me tons of great experience and a different side of things which I get to use my practice every single day. As I got into chiropractic school, I realized that I didn't necessarily fit in with my peers, because I had such a normal, common medical background, there we go a common medical background. And I disagreed with a lot of perspectives of other chiropractors, not to say they're wrong. Again, it's just they have a different opinion. And I think that with my experience, I am able to see things better from both sides of the, of the playing field. So as I went through school, I realized that there was more than just musculoskeletal pain as something that could be treated. And I got really interested in nutrition and acupuncture from treating the body from different ways. So as soon as I graduated, I started working on my acupuncture, diploma, not sorry, not diplomat, my board certification rather. And then my, I started working on my Master's in nutrition and human performance and functional medicine during my senior year at Logan. So gave me a little bit of time after I graduated to focus on building my practice, and finish up my master's degree and did all that. So I have a pretty, pretty good toolbox, if you will. So I can treat almost anything that walks in the door or have a good idea of what needs to go back out the door. Like when I send things to you.
Exactly. And I think that's huge is just being able to identify when you can and when you can't help someone, absolutley. I think that is one of the biggest roles for any healthcare practitioner. And I know that's why we disagreed on direct access, was being able to identify the right things at the right time. But I think you know, you and I do a great job of kind of identifying who's a good fit for the other person. So. So you started with the allopathic the common route of medicine? I did a long time ago, not a long time ago. 2020. So why the switch to chiropractic? Why, why that over? I don't know what else? What other options Did you consider
growing up, I wanted to be a medical doctor. Specifically, I wanted to be a pediatric oncologist, which after being in health care at all, was not ever going to be a good fit, I cannot stand to see little people in pain, it just is outside of my wheelhouse. I would have been miserable. So being in the allopathic realm gave me the opportunity to really see how medical doctors worked. And I was already interested in chiropractic after a bad car accident when I was 17. I got t boned. And I already had scoliosis, but the way that they hit me, they hit me in a way that it blew out two disks and made my scoliosis worse in my low back to the point that I couldn't actually walk on my own for six months. But after going to the emergency room and telling a ex athlete who had these huge dreams of going to medical school that she was going to have to have surgery, I was going to have to have a rod put in my spine, and you know, a cage around my low back and all of these things. And with the extent of the damage, I was still probably going to be in a wheelchair by 30. Thank goodness, I had already been to a chiropractor once or twice for some neck stuff. And it was recommended that maybe I should give that a try again. That was actually also my first contact ever with physical therapy. I wasn't really I had I had only ever had that one experience where I was one in a group. It wasn't what the private PT I didn't even know but that private Pts existed back then I was you know a kid. So when my entire first visit was sitting on a Swiss ball bouncing up and down. I'm not kidding.
Yeah. I like to think that the profession has changed over the years, but there's a lot that hasn't. So,
and again, if anything ever happened to me, I would just come to use I still would never know if it's improved. So, couple visits in I wasn't really getting better. And the exercises were making me feel worse and they didn't really, in my mind seem to know how to deal with the conflict of Hey, I don't feel like this is help is helping me. And then I mentioned I had to get going Anyway, because I was going to be late for my chiropractic appointment. And that's the one they said, Well, you can either go to a chiropractor or you can come to us, we don't allow you to see both. So at that day, I think my chiropractor,
I just rolled my eyes. I know you just wanted to make sure that that was
it was a good, it was a good eye roll. It was very nice. The ceiling appreciated it. So anyway, moral of story is yes, I saw the chiropractor for a very long time, he's now retired. And he even sponsored me to have a sponsor to go to chiropractic school to go to chiropractic school. And I knew after all of that, going from barely being able to walk to working as an on an ambulance nine months later picking up you know, large people and heavy stretchers and doing all the crazy things. That, that was cool. Like, I never had to have surgery, I still have no time I've been in a wheelchair was for a benefit. You know, it's changed literally changed my life. So that was the goal. But the same guy that said, Hey, you should try chiropractic for your low back, was also the guy that said, Oh, go to EMT class, it's only one semester, you can work your way through school. Yeah, and then I got offered a full time position, and I got detoured. But again, it also gave me the opportunity to see how medical being a medical doctor wasn't what I wanted. For myself, I have the utmost respect for the medical profession, it's just that that's not where I wanted to be. In my experience, the medical doctor spent so much time behind the desk. And I didn't think nursing was really quite what I wanted to do either. They were the ones that got the most patient care. So it just reaffirmed that chiropractic is where I wanted to be.
And that was something in the middle where you got to use your knowledge, your clinical skills, all of your experience, but you also had time with the client rather than behind the desk.
Absolutely. Love it.
Okay. So you've been on a long journey? Yep. What, what is about chiropractic? Do you love and I know, you've kind of shown a little bit of criticism, like you said, you didn't, you didn't agree with everything you didn't quite fit into the typical model of chiropractic. So maybe go into what is chiropractic in general, but then what is it that you do differently than the, quote, average chiropractor?
Okay. So chiropractic, really is all about the adjustment, which is kind of like a focused manipulation for all the PT out there, little more specific was generally more specific and a little bit. I don't even know a better way to explain it. So the philosophy behind it is that by restoring joint function, you are reconnecting the body to the brain by all the nociceptors and in the joint itself. So you're kind of waking up your brain, you're waking up your body, you're re establishing a connection between the brain and the body so that your body is able to heal itself. That's the entire point behind the chiropractic adjustment. And I've seen it do really great, interesting, cool things. But I knew that wasn't all like, it can't cure everything, it can't fix everything. I know that maybe some of you have seen or heard of some people out there saying that it cures asthma, it doesn't cure asthma, it might improve your function to breathe, if you don't have any locked in of all the joints are functioning around your rib cage, or if you know, things of that nature, so well, it doesn't cure anything, I think it helps give your body the ability to help heal itself, kind of like acupuncture, or most other conservative modalities.
Okay. So what is it that you do differently than the, quote, typical chiropractor.
So, as I mentioned earlier, chiropractors are kind of on a scale, you have the people that are considered straight, where all they do is the adjustment, they think that it can cure everything. Then you have people that are more like me that do a little bit of everything. So when you come to me, and I don't think you need an adjustment, I think you need acupuncture. I'll tell you if I was provided muscle work, because as Dr. Greg, I'm sure has told you muscles are attached to everything in your body. And if they're not functioning, the joints can't function. So muscle work comes with every one of my adjustments. I don't just do the same thing with everyone every single time when you walk in, I find it figure out what's wrong. Sometimes it's something completely different from what you came in with. So I address your address the core of the issue, not necessarily what is causing you discomfort, which again, that's what you do, right. I spent A lot more time with clients, I hear from other people that have been with other chiropractors that their average treatment time is between three and five minutes, I normally spend about 15. With everyone because there's additional muscle work, there's conversation about diet, there's conversation about lifestyle, there's conversation about sleep, hydration, all the other stuff that can contribute to your body functioning properly.
So it definitely sounds like more of a well-rounded approach, as opposed to this is my tool, and you are an object to use that tool alone.
Correct. I try not to be a carpenter with a hammer. I don't want everyone to be a nail. Right? I want to actually figure out what you need. Got it.
Okay. Yeah. So using those other tools in your tool belt, maybe like, go through those a little bit. And then you mentioned acupuncture, you've mentioned nutrition, you know, what, in what scenarios would someone need acupuncture over chiropractic or need acupuncture over whatever else?
Sure. So they're a chiropractic adjustment is a physical intervention. If you have had spinal surgery, if you have had, you know, cages put in, if you have physical anomalies like your brainstem says a little bit below the bone in your in your head, things like that you are not a good candidate for an adjustment, in which case, you'll be a fantastic candidate for acupuncture, which helps your body heal naturally, from a different perspective. It's an I've heard between three and 5000-year-old philosophy that has been very well researched, they still can't quite figure out why it works, but they can prove that it does. And over and over, I have fantastic results with things that have not had any results from any other modality. So I've had people with your retractable migraines come in and they walk out fine. Or people who have allergies to the seasonal allergies that are so bad, it triggers their asthma, and I'm never having to take a Claritin again. So things like that I think are really cool. As for the nutrition, I guess that's just the general term I use for the functional medicine that I do, which is
positive for just so yeah, let's I have some follow-up questions on the acupuncture. Sure. So why do you think that acupuncture is not accepted in the typical, and we'll say common medical journal these days,
I have no idea. Because the peer-reviewed journals that I'm reading show over and over and double-blind placebo, that even if you move the needle a quarter of an inch away from the acupuncture point, you no longer get the results. So I don't know if it's because of the fact that they can't show why it works. That's my
assumption. That's why I was asking because I there are medications that are like that.
Absolutely. They
show that they work, right. You know, acupuncture, they showed that it works, but they don't know why it works. Right. And I think the lack of the the lack of evidence of the why scares people away. I would agree with that. And it's, it's sad because obviously, it works for you and your clients. And it's worked for 1000s of years. Like if it didn't work, it wouldn't still be a thing.
No, and there wouldn't be so many modifications of it. I mean, just in my courses, I've learned Taoist acupuncture, Chinese acupuncture, five element acupuncture, Japanese acupuncture. And my original acupuncturist was Korean. So there's a lot of different styles, but the cool thing is they all work.
So when you're doing acupuncture, how do you choose between a style?
I blend them.
Okay. That was just curious because like, there are many different methods of physical therapy, right. There's McKinzie based physical therapist, and there's manual therapy based physical therapists. And I mean, I do a lot of anything as long as I think is the right fit for that specific client. Absolutely. And so is that similar, like if that's specifically what that person needs,
what's kind of like going to a physical therapist, when you can see five physical therapist for the exact same problem and no one's going to treat you the same. You because you've all had different experiences, you've all had different training. And you all see different things you have life experiences. So even when I'm adjusting someone from the chiropractic side, I mix the seven techniques that I know not everyone gets the cracking style. Some people use the tool, some people get the style that I use on babies and osteo product people that is super gentle and there's no velocity at all. Same thing with acupuncture. That's, again, I want it enough tools in my toolbox that no matter what walks in the door, I am comfortable and just roughing it Yeah,
I like it. And I think that's maybe a misconception I had, you know, my understanding of acupuncture is limited. And so my thoughts are, well, how does it work on every single person? But the fact is, there's different techniques, there's different placements, there's different. Oh, yeah, there's needle size and length, probably all of that. So it's never just, this is what you do. And I think that's why it's hard to study. Same thing for physical therapy. It's like, Okay, well, is it three sets of nine? Or is it three sets of 11 that make it better? Total, like you can't study that there's not enough people, there's not enough therapists, there's not enough time to possibly study this very specific thing. And, you know, that's why you can find that it does work, but you don't know exactly why.
Well, there's a reason why you should only go to someone who's board certified. a Board Certified PT, a Board Certified chiropractor or a Board Certified chiropractic, acupuncturist or regular acupuncturist or medical acupuncturist is because it's so complicated. There are 400 acupuncture points on common acupuncture points on your body. I say common because there are different different points depending on how you study, I'm gonna say the Chinese points, there are 400 of them. Each one does something different. And there's a point on the bottom of your foot that is great for headaches. But it also helps with dispelling wind, which is a philosophy thing, just how the Chinese will explain how things happen. So it can help with, you know, people in a hypertensive crisis, or it can help you with your headache. Are those necessarily connected? No. But the same, that point works for two different Well, usually multiple things. So again, it just takes hundreds of hours of study, and then practice, practice, knowledge,
absolutely anatomy,
all of it, all of the things.
So how does someone know if they are a good fit for acupuncture?
The joke in class was that everyone needs it at some point. Here's why. We're all made up of energy. You know, all matter has energy, it goes back to physics, right? Well, we are beings made of energy living on a planet that has two poles, a north and a South Pole, which are also magnetic. So with the changing of the seasons, and things like that are even, you know, nasty electrical storms, it's their philosophy that you need to be rechecked for acupuncture. So that would be what my teacher would have told you is everyone needs it all the time. However, since we're in the Western world, I would say 99 out of 100 ailments have a have a very good acupuncture related treatment. So the big ones I see in my office are obviously neck pain, back pain, headaches, because I'm also a chiropractor. I see a lot of women in my practice. So then I also go into the hormone balance, helping with improving fertility, helping with hot flashes, helping maintain pregnancy, if they've had multiple losses. I see a lot of people with seasonal allergies as well. And then after that, it's just sort of here or there. I have a few patients with asthma, directly that I treat their asthma with the acupuncture I have a lady who has horrible, horrible arthritis pain in her knees. And we've we've actually seen physical changes in her knees since she's been treated, which is kind of cool. So while I do mostly musculoskeletal, there's a ton of other things you can do. Okay, acupuncture for.
So there's not really a specific avatar of a person. That's a great fit for acupuncture versus other treatments.
Not at all. Sometimes it's a gateway to you know, a lot of people are scared of chiropractors, my predecessors did some silly things. And there were some, some conflict between the allopathic world and us that really weren't justified. So it's not there. A lot of chiropractors do have a bad rap. So in a lot of ways, it is also something that's very safe, very conservative, and very effective. With more of a hands off experience. Sure. Okay.
I like it. So is there a specific thing that you treat? I know, you mentioned the fertility side of things. And I know that's kind of a route that you're you're known for? Yeah. Would you say that that's a specialty of yours.
I would say that the biggest things that I see in my office are female hormone imbalances, like the infertility and PCOS and autoimmune stuff. So I would say that those two regions would be my specialties But as you know, everything walks in your door.
Absolutely. Yeah. You Good. It's good to know. So you mentioned the nutrition. Yeah, functional medicine? Are those the same thing? Maybe educate me because I've heard the word functional medicine. And sometimes I think, Oh, well, that's a physician who's doing more, quote homeopathic versus giving out medications. But that doesn't necessarily mean that they're doing nutrition based, correct. It just it just a different style. So maybe, tell me the difference in, you know, what you do? And you know, what, quote, functional medicine is, or, you know, kind of go into that force?
Sure. So the problem with functional medicine is that it's not a regulated term. I know, medical doctors, naturopaths, and chiropractors that are all functional medicine based. So the difference is that it is based on your labs, and all of them will look at your body as a whole system, not just to, you know, just say you have heartburn. Well, if you go to when I had heartburn, and I went to my medical doctor, she wrote me a prescription for pepsid. This is a million years ago, before it was over the counter. Whereas instead, if someone walks my door with heartburn, we would say, Okay, well what else is going on and see if there are commonalities, or if we can find the root cause of your issue, which might not actually even be coming from your stomach, it if it is, there's a million things that could be not necessarily low acid, it could be low pH, it could be you have peptic ulcer, there's, there's a million things that it could be going on. And it's my job to look at you as a whole whole person, not just a stomach to figure out what's going on with the person. Most functional medicine people also base their decisions on labs. So you have something concrete that you can look at, and you can quantify what you see, make some interventions, and then recheck it to see if there's been improvement? And if so, how much or how little. So how I'm different is, there will never be a medication. However, if you need medications, I will refer you to a medical doctor, that's not going to be I really know that I cannot treat everything.
Well, I mean, not that I've seen you work a ton, right, I've seen you and your office, but I know you've sent folks my way, when it's something that fits my specialty. And they've done well. I know that you've sent folks that I've sent to you elsewhere, when that when it wasn't a good fit for you. So like, I can certainly appreciate that as another practitioner that you're not, you're not sending people to me, just because I'm sending them to you. Oh, you're sending them to me, because you know that I'm the best fit? Absolutely, you're sending them to the MD because you know that that's the best fit. Right? And that is a awesome way to do things because the reciprocal relationship that doesn't make sense. It screws with people, and it hurts people. It doesn't. So I just wanted to put that out there that you know, I try to pride myself on the same thing is, you know, if I if I think that they're a great fit for XYZ doctor that does stem cell injections. Oh, yeah. I'm gonna send them to that guy.
I did that last month. Well,
there you go. Yeah. See, that's the thing is, it's more about making the right connections for your clients, not for yourself. Absolutely. And that's what I can certainly appreciate that. Sorry, interrupted, you
know, you're good. And I think that that trust and knowing that it builds a better relationship with your clients, if they know that you always have their best interest in heart, not the mighty dollar. We all want to pay back our student loans who all want to live comfortably. But that's, I think, to get into this kind of profession, you have to have that drive that desire to actually see people succeed and help people. So I completely agree with you. I like it.
Yeah. So I interrupted you in the middle of functional medicine, social
medicines, we covered labs having quantitative data that we can check and recheck
you were talking about medications. Yeah, you would refer if you needed to, absolutely. But
yeah, so I do do quite a bit with lifestyle. When the nutrition part is diet, which is a terrible four letter word, however, I mean, I even know that one day a week I let myself eat what I want, but the rest of the time. I am very deliberate about what I eat because I have health goals and I want to feel good. So exercise talking about you know, getting enough sleep good enough hydration, exposure to screens and blue lights. You All of the things, you know, it's obviously patient based on what pertains to them. But all of the things from a holistic standpoint that might help them. And in some cases, it's been referring them to you, Dr. Greg. So I've also referred some people who, I'm sure you've seen it, our minds have all of the control over our bodies. So I've referred people out to counseling, and, you know, biofeedback treatments, and things of that nature, to help them with other aspects of what's going on with their bodies. So that's kind of what functional medicine is, is, you know, it should be lab based. Some people take it from the medication standpoint, but really, if you want to stick with the true definition of functional medicine, you're treating your patient from a whole body perspective, using labs, and identifying all of the root causes of the issues, and then kind of like peeling back an onion, you know, getting them healthy. See the next layer, getting them healthy. So the next layer, it's definitely a journey, not necessarily a destination for some people as well.
So someone is working with a functional medicine practitioner, they're not going to go for a yearly checkup. And that's it. Typically, they're going to be given advice on, like we said, nutrition, lifestyle changes that could be made to improve. There's a litany of things that they could incorporate in their life to make things better.
Absolutely.
So I want to hear your thoughts on the root cause based approach, which is how you and I do things versus the symptom based approach. I kind of want to hear you explain that for the listeners. They listen to you better they listen to me.
That's fair. I understand that. It's always it's kind of like no, you don't listen to your spouse, you have to send your spouse to someone else to get absolutely tell them the same thing. You've been telling them for a million years, I get that. So let me tell you about, let's call her Nancy. Nancy, who was the niece of a chiropractor, who had a cousin that was a PT. And another cousin that was a medical doctor was in a car accident. And ever since she had had the car accident, she was complaining of this, her left shoulder would just hurt, ache constantly. So again, the carpenter often sees everybody as a nail, her medical doctor gave her cousin gave her anti inflammatories and steroids, steroids and pain pills basically, to help with for that aspect. Her physical therapist cousin gave her exercises, and then her chiropractic uncle would only adjust her spine. So turns out, she was having issues with her appendix. It wasn't the shoulder at all. She a referral pain pattern for the appendix is the shoulder. And that just happened to be I mean, everyone's looking at it from just the musculoskeletal was the wrong aspect. And we got to the root cause of it.
You know, I think it's one of those. Like you said, If I am a hammer, and that's my only tool, and I treat everyone as a nail, it's very easy to get in a rut where you don't actually evaluate people. Yeah. I see a lot where it's a lot of protocol driven treatment, right? Someone with shoulder pain, probably going to work on some external rotation strength, right? Maybe a little bit of range motion stuff, maybe some stability with some overhead work. Those are great for like, every single person with shoulder pain. Yeah. But you're not actually finding the issue. Right? You're treating shoulder pain without looking at why it's there.
Yeah. What about all the people with shoulder pain right now because they're sitting in these terrible positions in their home, mocked up home offices. And they have all this forward head posture and their shoulders are rolling forward. And yeah, that's going to cause pain. Right.
They're sitting in an armless barstool. Working for eight months, looking at a computer, but on their way, right.
Yes. Right. Yeah.
Yeah. There's a lot of that and, and I just I can't fathom the strict protocol driven, or symptom driven concept. But it's so it's so prevalent,
so prevalent, and how
did we get there? Is it laziness? Is it incompetence? Is it both is it
I don't know. But one thing that I have seen and some of my friends who teach at the local medical schools agree that There's something wrong in our educational system where we might just be failing to teach people how to think on their own. You know, don't just do everything in groups make people work on their own and think through the problem and find their own solution. So I mean, to do our jobs, you kind of have to be Nancy Drew or a Hardy Boy, you have to be interested in finding out what's going on, you know who the masked man is, if you're not interested in doing that, if you just want to work by protocol, you're not really going to find the answer, though. So they all seem to think and I can see their point that it's just a failure in our educational system to have that independence that was there in education when we were growing up.
Sure. standardized testing and the like.
Absolutely.
Okay. I think that's good. I think that's a good point. That's good stuff. So I know you mentioned I asked earlier about specialties, right? Yeah. And there, you're very well rounded, you have a lot of different things that you that you've studied, that you've done for, you know, you after your doctorate after your this, that and the other training, right, kind of ad and all that fun stuff. Yeah. Do you have like a specific demographic or a specific type of person that you're looking for? that typically is a great fit for you and your business.
The people that I really love working with our women, because we I think we all relate to people like ourselves. So women who have been having ongoing, nagging issue that they've never taken the time to stop and work on. I hear a lot of I see a lot of women where their kids get to high school, and they can finally breathe a little bit. say, well, I've been having this, I've been dropping things with my right hand for six months, or I've been finding that I've had brain fog for five years. And I just thought it was because I was overwhelmed. And now I'm not stressed. I don't know why I'm having this brain fog. So women with ongoing issues that really aren't being addressed, or women who don't want to just keep living in their medicine cabinet, that they actually want to get to that, you know, root cause of what's going on and not have to live on medicine, the rest of our lives, maybe just have a joyous life. those are those are the people that I enjoy working with.
I agree that those are typically a good fit for me as well. Yeah. You know, it's interesting, and I don't mean to call out the guys that might be listening. But typically, in my experience, a lot of the guys will get started, they'll get 70-80% better, and then they're gone. And that's, you know, it's certainly a generalization. There are plenty folks that do really well and stick around for as long as it takes to make things 100%. But in general, once guys are getting close to doing well, they're going to try to do it on their own. It's like asking for directions before GPS.
Yes,
there's a lot of lot of stubborn guys that just are not able to accept help when they know they need help. It's interesting
it is. I know, I don't know about you, but a lot of the men that I do see were brought in by their wives. And it was they were nagged in there. And the ones that do stick with it are normally find that they are pleasantly surprised at the results. But there's usually some nagging and annoyance that has to take place to get them in the office.
Absolutely.
So tell us about Kristan, right? We've heard about Luminous we've heard about kind of what you do professionally. What do you I know we're not allowed to do a whole lot of fun these days. But what do you do for fun? I want these folks
to know you. Pre COVID which is one of my favorite terms these days, you hear at least five times a day. Pre COVID I would say my biggest joy is travel. Having everything cancelled this year was a real big shot. My husband and I do not buy each other gifts. Because we're not really interested in things. We always have an experience. So for this year, I turned 40 and so we went to Las Vegas, which has been open for a little while and of course we did everything we could to be safe. However, it was really nice to be able to go somewhere different see different things experienced different culture. Now there are no shows and most of it was just walking around the strip and saying oh, that's where that is for future reference or if we go back or you know, then we took a side trip out to this random living ghost town two hours south east of Las Vegas and Arizona. Call Boatman on Route 66. Where we drove all the way out there to pet wild donkeys might as well might as well. But you know, I really love travel, I love unique experiences, things like that. Cooking. I love learning new healthy recipes, because that's a really big important part of my, you know who I am and my long term goals. I love exercise and I love. I love exercise, however, I get easily bored. So I tried running for a while. And once I hit the six, seven mile mark, I realized that I was bored. And just just running, it's just running. So then I tried different places. And that was fine for a while and then I started running out of places. So now it's nice to do the home workouts like we were talking about before the show, I stream Beachbody on demand. And if I'm getting sick of one trainer, I'll switch if I'm getting sick of the style. I'll switch. So I love exercise. I just cannot have a lot of repetition. I love my two rescue dogs. I'm kind of ridiculous about them. My Chihuahua terrier has a slew of sweaters because he is a tropical dog and he does not like the cold. His name is Bill. And then I have a black lab named Hank who is the complete opposite and would just love to live in Alaska. Okay, love my rescue puppers. I'm married. My husband's a pastor. This is a second career for both of us. We met on the ambulance. We have a he'll be 22 at the end of the month, your old son he is going to college in Missouri. He's in the Missouri National Guard. He's a pretty awesome, one of the kinds of hard humans I've had the pleasure of helping raise. Yeah, I love reading, reading, reading, reading, you should see the stacks of books or books around my house are ridiculous.
Definitely a big audio book fan.
I do audio books, but I kind of have the paper or the Kindle. Sometimes you just Yeah. Very good. Good stuff.
So rescue dogs.
Yes. know all about those. Oh, yeah.
So we got to talk rescue dogs for a brief second. So I don't know that I've announced this to my listeners. I've definitely announced it to my you know, social media folks that follow me. Yeah. The charity that I support as my business is Champ Assistance Dogs. Yeah. And so they are a nonprofit here in the Boston area. And they help folks that are disabled or blind, get assistance dogs, and so they help with the training, they help with the raising of the dogs, all of it. And so it's a pretty cool organization. And they have rescue dogs from there as well. And they have people that foster them and all sorts of stuff. So really cool organization. Me and my wife have a rescue dog as well. So,
but you didn't get them through Champ.
Where'd you get not their Champ? No, we got them through. They put me on the spot. So it wasn't straight rescue. It was over in Columbia, Illinois. Great organization Metro. No,
no. Yes. Oh, let me help us to work there. I can't think of
Yeah, I can't think of the name of it. But anyway, one of it has been great.
One of my dogs is rescued from Missouri and ones from Illinois. Okay. Yeah, there we go. They're both very fun. Very
good. So if folks want to get in contact with you, how can they do that?
I have a website luminouschirostl.com
And then we'll be sure to put that in the show notes.
Thank you. You have all the contact me information through the website where you can fill out if you want to have a chat. If you are really interested in talking to me, there's a link on there where you can actually link to my online schedule and book a complimentary 15 minute consultation to see if we're a good fit complimentary 15 minutes, okay, we can have a conversation again, I really don't want you to waste your money. If I'm not a good fit for you, if you really should be going to see Dr. Greg. Or if you're really should be going to a surgeon. Right, any of those things. Because I maybe you've seen it too. I've had people that come in, I have this tearing back pain, oh my gosh, your abdominal aorta is ramping up and you do not need to be here. You need to be in the operating room, please get out of my office. Thank you. So yes, complimentary 15 minutes, just so we can make sure that we are a good fit. If there's any synergy if there's no trust, we're not going to be a good partnership solely. So they can book that through the website too. That's usually the fastest easiest way or even through my Facebook page, which is just Dr. Kristan Wilson. Very simple.
Very cool. So what if, what if folks are not sure about going out these days? Are they able to work with you virtually? How does that work?
So I cannot adjust you or do your acupuncture virtually clearly. However, if you would like to do functional medicine, we can absolutely do that virtually the only thing you will have to leave your home for is going to the lab to get the blood draw. Okay? which there are very safe there cleaning everything. I had my blood drawn twice since COVID. And I was really impressed with their sanitation procedures. Very good. Yep. So we can do that virtually. I prefer Zoom because phone calls people can't visually see there. It's challenging,
it does definitely have to be face to face, even if it's over the computer. Absolutely. Absolutely. Very good. Anything else that you would like to share with the listeners?
Well, I am working on my diploma in functional medicine, through the chiropractic board, that's kind of like a postdoc, tutorials specialty, sort of like in the medical field. Your OBGYN has been to the past medical school, they got their regular boards, but they also then pass a specialty board. Well, this is a specialty board where as soon as I'm done, I will only be one of two people in the state of Missouri that has it. Okay,
collector or otherwise.
Only chiropractors for this one is the diplomat and nutrition and functional medicine through the chiropractic board. So what I need to finish my program, I need two people, maybe three that are willing, and able, that obviously have to have a medical issue. But who would like to try functional medicine, and would be okay with me publishing our findings anonymously as a case study and a journal so that I can finish my supplement. And if they do that with me, I will be happy and willing to give them a significant discount on their care. Very cool. Yeah.
So you need these case studies to be able to complete basically the requirements for the deployment.
Yep, I have to have two publications and got peer-reviewed journals. Very cool. finish my diploma. Awesome.
So if you guys are considering working with Dr. Kristan, you've heard about how she does things. You've heard about what her interests are. Hopefully, you think you'll get along with her. If that's the case, and you're considering it. certainly, try to help her out with this process. It's a big, long process to get through this. And it takes some help. So all hands on deck. If you can help Kristen, that would be awesome. Thank you. All right. Well, thanks for being here. Thanks for being on the show. And thanks for inviting me. Absolutely. Absolutely. All right. This has been STL Active.


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