In this episode of the show, I’m interviewing Danyal Timmermann from Boom Pilates in Creve Coeur Missouri.
Danyal is the owner of Boom Pilates in Creve Coeur. She is a Level II Instructor under the highly accredited STOTT Pilates Method. She is also a certified nutrition coach, a Juvoboard Instructor, Core Barre Instructor, and Licensed Gallup Strengths Coach. She is also the co-owner and HR Director of Timmermann Group, a digital marketing agency (located in Midtown) with her husband Rob. In her free time, Danyal loves to live her best life through mindful fitness, cooking, traveling, and spending quality time with her 6-year-old son, Paxton.
Danyal and I have one other thing in common, we both won STL Magazine's A-List Reader's Choice Award for 2020 for our respective businesses! We couldn't do it without our wonderful clients!
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Hello, and welcome to STL active St. Louis is premier health and wellness podcast. STL active aims to give listeners in the St. Louis area the information they need to succeed and progress with their health and fitness. This podcast is brought to you by St. Louis PT comm and hosted by Doctor of Physical Therapy, Greg Judice. Hey guys, it's Dr. Greg, owner and physical therapist at Judy sports in rehab. On this episode of the show, I'm interviewing Danyal Timmerman. Danyal is the owner of boom polities. She's a level two instructor under the highly accredited start to polities method. She is also a certified nutrition coach, a juvenile board instructor, core bar instructor, and licensed gallop strengths Coach. In this episode, Danyal shares her story of how she got into polities and how she shares her passion with the community. Without further ado, let's get into Interview with Danyal, welcome to the show. Thank you so much, Danyal, for being here. Thank you so much for having me. I'm excited to be on the show. Absolutely. So today we have Danyal Timmerman from BOOM Pilates in Creve Coeur. That's me. So let's get started. Why don't you tell us a little bit about your background? Gosh. So my background with career unfolded after college, of course, I graduated with my Bachelor of Science in product development and fashion design out of Missouri State. And when you're a young lady with a fashion degree in Missouri, it often ends up that you go into retail, and I did. And I grew in the retail industry through many corporations and ended up in Chicago pretty quickly after school. I lived there for a few years and my career unfolded. And after a few fun and cold years in Chicago, I realized the perfect happy medium city for me, between my very small town of Springfield, Missouri where I grew up, and the big city of Chicago was St. Louis so I've been here almost 20 years and I Spent 15 years in the retail industry growing through district leadership, multi unit leadership, running lots of companies from brand to operations. But mostly I spent the final five of the 15 years in the talent piece, recruitment, HR selection, and just how to really grow an individual through smart individualized development plans. And that brought me to kind of phase two of my career my husband and I had a little boy and when he was 11 months old, the weekends the nights and the travel were a bit much for us. So we decided to join forces to my husband's company called Timmerman group where he's our CEO, and I became our HR director. Five years ago, I started running HR with only eight individuals. So it's kind of funny, because we really didn't need an HR director at that time. But I've quickly seen it unfold with headcount and fiscally, we have 2324 employees now full time and it's a big deal and it's super fun and I love watching the growth through that company. And I'm just There are three days a week. But stage three of my background and career is probably the most exciting to me because it's where the passion really comes in. And that's the place. I took a pottery class when my son was about 18 months old following a C section. And as many women kind of find the potty space after a lack of a core connection, I did. I grew up as a dancer, I always had a really good mental core mind body, ability or connection, and it didn't work anymore. I really just couldn't find my core. And someone said, you got to try to potty. So I went on a Thursday night. And I couldn't laugh without feeling my body ache for three days, went back the next Thursday night. And then I went back for a week. And then I went and did a 90 day with social media challenge. And I did 90 days of parties and on the 91st day my husband said what are you doing? Why are you getting dressed to go back to the studio? And I said I have to do something with this. Like my life has to be giving this back. I don't care. How much of a sacrifice it is I got to figure this out. And that brings us to today. That's awesome. And it's so common to have that core loss after pregnancy. I absolutely see it all the time. And so especially postpartum women are going to have significantly weaker cores than their male counterparts of same age. And it's, it's so just so unfair. It's such a glaring thing that I see as a therapist. But that's awesome that you have kind of found your tribe of people that you're trying to help. Absolutely. And being one of those people is is a huge reward to you because you're helping yourself but you're also helping so many other people that have been through the same situation. Absolutely. I think that experiencing what I speak to has been an awesome Business Resource. I also just love the intimate and sweetness of pre and postnatal. It's really amazing and it's a really fun one on one connection, getting to know a new mom and getting to inspire her through a pretty challenging time. of kind of Who am I now that I'm a mom? Or who am I now that I'm pregnant? everything kind of changes. And it's great to be a part of a positive movement piece for that. Awesome. So once you went on that 91st day, yeah, kind of walk me to where you are now. Like, how did you? How did you decide from? I know I have to do this too. This is what I'm gonna do. I love it. Great question. So I started researching, of course, online, different parties, methodologies, there's numerous accredited national certifications that you can go through to become a equipment based studies instructor. The classes that I had been taking for those 90 plus days were under on a mat and many people know that mat in your yoga Of course, on a mat, they always compare the two. But plotly is is really unique because when Joe potties back in the 1900s, originated the sport, it was really on these beautiful apparatuses, and I wanted to know more about that. So when I did my research I started looking for what was gonna make me feel the most educated, the most competent and the strongest to teach and that was with an anatomical focus. And blatantly I just kept going back to the stock potties method. So I found a studio that was going to fit for me they're not in every city, a lot of people think, oh, you can just become a potties instructor with the method that you want anywhere. And that's not true. With this particular method, I had to travel for it. And it's, it's not like a weekend warrior camp. It's not a month long. It's a year, maybe two, sometimes three years. And I am so blessed to have found this amazing studio called body Smith in Springfield, Missouri, located 223 steps away from my dad's loft in Springfield, Missouri. And I knew I was gonna have to be taking my son with me because it was every other weekend or every three weekends for a year. And so I signed up, I went and started my reformer training, took my son to my half retired, semi retired father and left him for the weekends why I would study and then come back for work on Mondays and I did that for 15 months. Then graduated with a level two program. And that includes all three repertoires essential, which is a foundation, beginners level, intermediate, which is in the middle and an amazing pace and really fun and then advanced, which is a little bit higher level and a little more. I caught the party tricks. Okay. Gotcha. So obviously a ton of dedication went into that. Yeah. Right. So 15 months, just to be certified to start plus 20 hours a week of anatomy, right? It is. Yeah, that's awesome. So you obviously have a lot more education than most, I would say most police folks, because I've met a few. Yeah. But I was when we first met, right. We met about six months ago or so. When we first met and you were telling me about everything that you went through with those 15 months. I'm sitting there thinking, what, what is this normal? Is it normal and obviously not what you've done is obviously significant, higher education for polities. I think that there are numerous national credited programs that have just as high I respected anatomical focus, I've got lots of friends that come from other methods that definitely study just as hard. I personally just found that the contemporary style of style, and the modification level was really for me, I wanted to be able to have this vision of having three best friends in the room taking them on the same class on a reformer with me, where one was postnatal, and could barely, you know, feel confident in her own skin. And the other one was maybe really advanced, and maybe one was right in the middle, and I could teach them at the exact same time and they would never know that they weren't being taught the same thing through modification. And that was what Stott gave me. And that is really kind of what boom is, is just that everyone is welcome. We have the talent and the nimbleness to be able to shift gears when we need to for any body type or situation that your body has going on on that moment. And as you know, everybody's body is very different each day. So I encourage a lot of my advanced students to come to essential every once in a while like just because you're rocking these really Intense, deep advanced classes doesn't mean that that's the right fit always for your body. And then you know, go back to the basics, go back to Foundation, go to essential and regroup with your form and come back and you'll see a new approach with your body. Very cool. So I'm gonna step it back just a second. Can you give some folks that don't know a whole lot about polis? Maybe give you gave a little bit of a background with Joe polities but maybe give a little bit more information on what his plot Yeah, yeah, I think thanks. So like I said, it was originated from Joe, our hero of potties back in the 1910s. And it continued to evolve. It got really popular in the 40s 50s and 60s, he moved his business to New York where he was married and actually spent the second half of his of his career training dancers out of the New York ballet. And it was just a really interesting way for someone to use machines and tools and use these apparatuses to lengthen strengthen and tone their body in different ways, by many Mentally connecting to the move and adding, adding adding reps to the move. So you're actually doing the move over and over and playing with the pace. So sometimes maybe a little faster. And sometimes maybe you really slow it down so that you can find basic principles through each move. Number one of the principles being breath. So focusing on how your inhale and your exhale contributes to the movement. So it's very different than yoga. Yes. And oftentimes, they get thrown into both we need both. Yeah, and that's, that's one thing that I kind of wanted to mention, just based on what you were saying is, everybody has different needs. Yeah, everybody has different likes, totally. There are plenty of people that would do great with either yoga, Pilates or CrossFit way different from each other. But some people might like the intensity of polities or CrossFit over yoga, they might like the the stability, component of yoga and polities over CrossFit. You know, it just depends What they're wanting. And so that's I agree. And I also am a big believer, and I bet I'm guessing you would be as well, that mixing it up is really smart. Like my recipe for success is to not tell someone to go do parties every single day and never get out and do a walk or run. Like you need to let your body move in so many different ways, and then come back to your favorites. And you'll really, really fall in love with them even more variety, right? For obviously a good thing. Yeah. So one thing that you'd mentioned earlier that I just want to kind of touch back on is that you guys are able to meet people where they are right and whether it's postpartum, intermediate or advanced. You're able to identify those folks and modify it to fit them. What is your evaluation process? How do you know where people lie within that continuum? Yeah, great. We definitely have a thorough waiver and Acknowledgement Form that when they come in to ask some questions, you know, that will unfold deeper questions one on one. We also are training There are three stoplights instructors in my business and we're all trained to do a postural analysis. This takes us about 10 to 15 minutes, we actually also sell this, it's $25. If somebody wants to come who never ever wants to do potties but would just love to do a postural analysis, this is actually something we do in the business. And we actually do it often. And it's just a chance to talk through some of the kinks or some of the, what you're naturally born with things that you see every day, you know, just a difference in your body and in your posture that's going to show up in fitness, it's going to show up in movement, and it's really it's so much better to be aware of it and have that knowledge and find that power so that you don't get hurt worse. Gotcha. So you're taking a history? Yeah. You know, not necessarily a medical history, but part partially Yeah, kind of a physical history. Absolutely. And so once you've done physical history, the posture exam, you're able to kind of see where people are. Yeah, and if they're struggling with certain movements, struggling with certain activities, or have a certain type of history. Then they might fit into one of those categories. Exactly. And again, I'm sure some people would be advanced on certain things but and have some weaknesses that they need to work on. And so it fits somewhere into that. And I usually have any any new client at least come to one of my essential classes to start, if not Book Three privates with me so that I can see them move and then give them a free postural analysis. In the midst of the first one, I encourage five to 10 essential before we progress on to intermediate. Now, if someone has already been studying potties, or been a part of the party's culture in their body for so long, and we meet and talk through an email or phone call, I can usually go ahead and feel safe that they're going to be okay in an intermediate class, but I still love to see how they move in the essential level. I have yet to date ever sent someone to advanced as their first class and I don't think I'll ever do. There's nothing to gain from that. No. I mean, that's just a bad Yelp review waiting to happen, right? Even if they're awesome at it. Yeah. It's better For you to see them somewhere in the middle, or at a lower level. And I'm not saying that essential wouldn't be almost impossible for me. Yeah, no, you'd be great at anybody. But there's definitely only negatives to come from trying to push someone too hard. Absolutely. So I get it, I totally get it. It shouldn't be a badge of honor. I think that actually knowing the foundation should be the badge if there is even one of being able to kind of know that your body can do the basic principles and do them well and keep form through each rep. And then that progression, just add some speed, some pace and some new variety of it. Yeah, awesome. So when we were talking before, you'd mentioned that you've got kind of an eclectic background, right? You've done bar training Jiu vo I'm not even sure what that is. Yeah, I'll tell you trician strength, right. You've done a lot of different types of physical and probably mental training. So how did that how do you incorporate that into boom? Yeah, some of it was just so I could feel more confident practice. seeing different methods and learning to teach in the way that I really wanted to kind of create the boom teaching way. Some of them I use every single day. So there are a couple courses that we do both like you asked about Giovanni about Judo, it's, it means to attain an assist in Latin and the Jeeva board is this amazing tool that's an incline board. It also goes down to a surface of balance, so it wobbles, kind of like you're on a surfboard or on a paddleboard, and the training has a lot of nod to maladies. It also has some active isolated stretching techniques and a nod to some yoga static, static holds. And then at the end of it when you flip the board, there's this whole entire bar training on it with the wobble surface. And there's lots of props that come into it. So some of the material that we use in the JIRA board training. I moved to the reformer and just kind of shifted it shifted gears into a new apparatus. Some of the moves on the reformer. I also bring to Juba so those work really hand in hand in the midst of all of my crazy start 15 months, I also decided that it made sense to be even more crazy and do a core bar training. So I got bar certified. At that time, I was really interested in potentially teaching bar at different studios, it was really hot, it's still really hot. But it was just a very easy way to start teaching. And the studio that I worked at allowed me to do a fusion class like a polities and Barre class so that was why I did that certification. And part of that was just to become comfortable with teach teaching, right? Because Did you Did you already have the dream of them before you I feel like the dream of boom started once I started going to so many studios and seeing how people taught and really picking, you know, we all envied different things that you see and you take something away and you say, you know, that would be really great if we could put that little piece into a studio and that little piece and I would look at different ceiling lights or different sound and I would see a different the way that the layout of the studio was and I was just collecting and inputting all these different things until finally I my schedule wasn't working with this. Do driving back and forth in the morning, go into the work and then at night and then sometimes going back again. And my husband said, why don't we just put this in our basement. And so we took everything out of the basement and put mirrors up. I bought a reformer. And then I bought a second reformer, I started booking duets. After that I had privates and duets. Then I bought a diva board, then about a second to aboard, and about a third and a fourth. So I could do three for trio or four. And it just kept evolving. And at that point, I needed a name, I need an LLC. And that was about two and a half years ago, okay. And so I remember the day where I had about 30 or 30 appointments that week or 30 sessions that week. And I remember saying to my husband, this is really no longer home, I need you to drive away like you can't be upstairs, we can't have food being cooked. I have a pregnant client coming in this is gonna be bad. This is a business. And I remember him saying, actually, no, it's time to build a business. So it was time to kind of start looking for property which honestly took me about 11 months. It was not Easy. It was not simple. Building a lease when you're a solo female business owner is tricky. There's a lot that goes into it, you know, and I thought it was gonna happen a lot quicker than it did. And it didn't. Right. You know, I got lucky when I found this. Yes, you are it. I thought it was gonna be so easy. You just call the call the people with the signs up and you just say what? No, no way more difficult. It is. That is so cool. So So you started this just kind of one at a time. Let's see what can happen in the house. And go one friend told her mom told her aunt told their neighbor and I just ran around. Yeah. And I opened the studio with 36 private appointments a week. So I had built enough to actually cover most of the bills to like move that and then just Cross my heart and my fingers and prayed a lot and said, I hope that people continue to refer this and here we are. Yeah, very cool. So I kind of took you away a little bit from the the training background. Obviously you have corporated a lot of that into the home studio. Yeah, did that carry over into the grief course to hit did I originally opened the grief course studio with a big focus in nutrition and as well as the coaching of potties. I went through a Cornell's online program that you Cornell plant based nutrition program. And I did that in 2016, so that I could start speaking to just the data and the science of nutrition in a plant space. That's how I have chosen to cook and eat for years and I wanted to just know more about it. Currently on the spectrum, we have become a plotly studio and we are growing in a nice pace. We're growing in the privates, the duets, and we're growing in classes and actually, I'm in a place now which is really exciting. Here we are eight and a half months, nine months in where I need to be working on the business and not so much in the business. So I'm hiring and training apprentices right now and I'm getting ready to you know, kind of let go and I haven't hired an a trained nutrition apprentices and I also have a big belief now that I look back on some of the some of the teachings and coachings of nutrition is that as I'm not an RD or a medical doctor, it does get tricky because all of us are so different on a cellular level. So advising someone to eat the way that I eat that has been successful and made me feel really energetic and motivated and awesome and great doesn't necessarily mean that it's going to always work for someone and because I don't have a background in psychology and I don't have a background in art as an RD, I think that resourcing out those folks for my clients has become a much better fit. And that's where I'm at today as I hope that they refer me to polities, which is kind of where I'm the that's my trade. Very good. We'll have to talk after about who you use. Okay, great. I have some Yeah, text, right. Very cool. So why the name Well, what is boom what is is there It has a couple of short there's a couple of angles to the name and it when it finally when I finally sat on it, it made sense. So the brief find my core like honestly that boom that been able to find me again, and I don't mean from The way I physically looked, I mean from how I could actually mentally connect to my TV or I could actually fire the pelvic floor again and actually be really connected to some of the muscles that I have had such a disconnect with after the after the delivery. That was a boom, but then also my background in dance growing up, I was classically trained in ballet tap and jazz, but really, really loved the jazz and tap, I have a lot of pace to me, I have a lot of energy and the music and the beats being a little fast, faster beats per minute, was my preference. And as I got older, I started going into cheerleading upon to kind of continue that through the second half of my childhood adults journey. And electronic dance music has always been a huge part of me as a hobby. So it just made sense that I would be hybridizing that passion in with my party's passion and honestly I was looking for it at another studio. I don't even know if I would be here today if I would have found it. I was looking for someone to have this posh boutique style atmosphere. Really good beats, you know, clean beats where you're not hearing a ton of vocal, and you're not really focused on what song is this you're focused on the movement and having just like a posh kind of shishi vibe, and I didn't find it. And so I built it. There you go. And I was just gonna say, you know, everything you've kind of said, I picked a little bit of this from this place that I went and coached at night baked a little bit from this place. And so you were mentally engineering the space Yeah, whether whether or not well before the idea to open your own game about Yeah. And so, you know, aligning your passions for that style of music with what you wanted to do for a career. Yeah, obviously makes sense. Absolutely. Awesome. That's fine too. And so listeners i have i've been by her studio after a meeting and I three doors down from Levon boo Shea there Yeah, and so I'm walking to my car, and I can I can hear it bumping there's some lights there's some vibe absolutely so even though you know you can't really see anyone in there Yeah, curtain. Yeah. But you can tell most folks are having fun there. That's what we're selling. We're selling. We're selling safe movement that focuses on fun. I mean, my, my favorite compliment at the end of the class, when someone tries boom is when they look at me or another instructor and they say, Wow, that was really fun. That's what I'm going for every single time. I think that there's sometimes a little bit of a snooty or snotty polities. Kind of an ex ballet vibe that comes in with this industry. And the nose. Yeah, yeah. Because a lot of us were previous ballerinas. And so there is this eliteness that comes with a with as someone who studied ballet because it's such a serious discipline sport. But I didn't want that for our studio. I wanted approachability. I wanted fun. I wanted community culture and vibe. And I really just wanted to see like a boom of friendship that could come out of the clients building each other up so that my part was really easy. I just got to come in and teach the moves and they encourage each other to show up every day. Very cool. Yeah. So you got the boom and beats got the boom and beat you got the booming community. Yeah. And then you can also say that maybe there's a boom like an exclamation of fun. Fun. Yeah, boom. You know exactly. You got it. Awesome. Yay. You're coming. So we're booking. Yeah. All right. So you mentioned selling fun, and the community aspect. Tell me more about the community that you've created. Because I imagine it's a lot different than in your basement. Yeah, as nice as it might have been. Yeah. Compared to a nice studio. Yeah, I always joke like we started from the basement here. So I think in some ways, yes, it's very different. In some ways. It's actually exactly the same, like the friendships that are built through my privates. And the deep camaraderie that comes from really that one on one charismatic energy was the same in my creepy small basement. But what's really neat is when I see now how this community that I thought I was going to have to build actually had nothing to do with me. Now that it's scary. kind of live in inaction. It's about them. It's about my amazing clients and they build each other up and they're, you know, getting each other's numbers and going out for coffee afterwards. And they're trying to figure out which classes they're coming to. So they can sign up together. There's a lot of routine in how they want to be together. And it's so much less work building this culture than I thought it would be. You know, as an HR director, building culture is an everyday focus hadn't even really made that and I thought of this as like, okay, putting my HR hat on, how do I make everyone happy here, and it wasn't like that. It was like, and honestly, it took a spin, like it took its own vibe beyond me, and I'm fine with that. Because that's truly what culture is. You can't force it. Right. Very cool. Neat. I love it. So let's, let's make a little bit of a change in topic here. You had mentioned setting goals, right. And obviously your clients need to set some sort of goals with their health, whether that's weight loss or strength or just showing up, right? Sometimes it's just showing up. So I know you've kind of had your own journey with setting goals, but maybe let's talk about your clients. In addition to that, yeah, take it whatever order you would like. Okay, great. So I feel like with goal setting, I agree with you on 100%, that just showing up is really kind of the hardest part. If you can just get into the studio or get into whatever place you've chosen for the day of movement, you are going to feel better afterwards. You know, as long as there's no injury involved, you're going to walk away with beautiful natural endorphins and awesome serotonin, and it's just gonna be this burst of goodness. And so I try to really figure out when I meet and greet with my clients, when are you coming in each week? You know, how many times do you want to come? How many times can you afford to come? And then kind of just getting that verbal commitment with them so that they've kind of set the stage for when I will expect to see them. And then as far as measurements and weight loss and metrics that I think a lot of studios are doing gyms in general, you know, in the world focus on like this need to look a different way, I really take a completely different approach. And it's more about like, I don't want to change anything about you. My guess is lots of really cool metrics are going to change, including your well being and your mental state when you focus on good smart movement. But you're good enough to be here today, tomorrow and every other day, regardless of size. And we have a place for everyone in this business, and I really don't coach to it at all, I kind of purposely avoid it. Very cool, different it is way different. Because you know, there's a lot of the use of, you know, body fat measurement tools and the scale and circumferential measurements, right. And so there's a lot of different metrics to measure success, but when it comes down to it, do they feel better about themselves? And will they really, exactly it's really the biggest thing totally, and so, you know, I see that in my business as well. They're not coming for pain, right coming because they want to be able to do something Exactly. It's a different mindset. Totally. And so what are you selling? You're selling fun. You're, you're selling, feeling better about yourself. You're not selling weight loss you're not selling. And so I think that's very appreciated the candor there, because if they're expecting certain things that they're not getting, yeah, there's something missing. But if the expectations up front are what they are. That's very cool. Yeah, I mean, we've endless amounts of stories where I could I could do before and after pictures, or I could show the success of someone's journey and weight loss or measurements. But I don't think that sets the great stage through social media or through bragging or boasting about that in the business because as a woman, you know, a lot of women, we come from a distorted background of what food is and what body shape is and size and what we're supposed to look like. When you see someone's journey and you're just maybe getting started. That envy seems so far away. It seems like you can't even get there. You can't even touch it. And it's discouraging. It's actually not motivating. And so I'm trying to take out all the D motivations and put all the motivations in the business. And all we want you to do is shop and have fun. And that's it for 15 minutes, right? Because your social media posts are smiles under workout. Yeah, fives. Yes, exactly. Yeah, so cool. Yeah. Very good. So, what's, um, let's see, if you're okay with it. Let's talk about your own goal setting. Okay, more kind of on the business side or personal side. You know, your, your methods of goal setting are so vastly different than mine. I just kind of want to hear. I want to just I think they're different than most. I've always been goal driven. I think it's always been who I've been, but if I could, like, tell my younger self anything, it would have been too, too quick, more, a little quicker. Set SMART goals, like with actions and measurements so that when I said things, you know, in my younger 20s like, I want to own a business one day, I would have actually strategize for that, you know, it took me until I was 40. To get to where I feel like my passion and my career really merged. At the exact point that it made me really happy. And you know, also, I'm really grateful that it happened at 40. Like, I get to do this the rest of my life, but it came from goal planning. And goal planning usually means it comes from sacrifice. So you actually have to give up to kind of get. And so I finally just digested that about five years ago that if I was going to get really structured with my schedule, and take on a Yes, for anything, it really needed to play into my goals. You know, an example would be what we're doing right now, you asked me about this. About four weeks ago, I had to look at a date that fit for both of us and it we projected out it wasn't going to happen at that exact time. And the yes came because this is a really smart way for you and is our businesses to collaborate. This is a smart fiscal move for us. It's also just a smart community awareness about who's out there in the wellness space. But you know, if it wasn't wouldn't have been smart, I would have said no. And I would have politely explained to you why and I would hope that you would understand and respect and it didn't mean that I was trying to be a bummer. It just would have been like it wasn't a good fit. I think that I think that's one of the biggest things is the ability to say no. Well, I'm glad you didn't say no to me. It's so difficult when you first get started to say no it because you're gonna get calls from a ton of different people you sign up for this group. Well, there's 500 people watching and they all want to part of your business totally. And so I totally get that. And so that's definitely a big time saver is being able to say no, in the right situation. Yeah, and sometimes I even go I structure my schedule out like crazy and I know I'm a rarity, but I enjoy structure in my schedule. I also enjoy going to work each day like I like being connected to a purpose. I like being connected to drive. I like being connected to others individual careers and being a part of how I see them shine. And there are people who are just not like that, and I get that 100% but for me, goal planning aligns with schedule planning, you can make any goal happen if your schedule is is intact, and organized and thoughtful. And you also sacrifice or you say no to the things that are not going to Be a good fit for you. And also building in time in that schedule or in the goal, to relax and to have find balance. And you know, I do that my husband and I will send each other. This sounds crazy. And I can't believe I'm saying this on a recorded thing. But we'll send each other a calendar invite for a four hour period on a Sunday to not do anything. And let adoptability come our way. Let the world take us where we need to be and if that's a petting zoo, great news. We didn't have plans for that. But if it's, you know, where we just Netflix and chill, also great, but we build that into the schedule so that we have those pauses and those balances so we can go back to the grid and really hit the ground running with goals later on. Very good. That's so challenging for me to schedule downtime. It sounds you should try it next should you know it sounds so foreign because most people take downtime as well. There just happens to be nothing to do your scheduling, nothing to do scheduling nothing to do. Yeah, and we also schedule family time we scheduled date night, you know, our son is a huge part of our life as any multi parent family is you know, in the household he he runs the roost. And so he takes up a lot of really great time. He also takes up a lot of bummer time. Like it's great though. And so we have to schedule that. I think that's just parenting. That is parenting. I can't say that but I don't have kids. So no, one day Sunday. Yeah, exactly. So you can schedule that. Love it. Alright, so another thing that we were talking about before the episode is you guys, are you in particular, you're a huge reader, right? You listen to a lot of resources, you read a lot of resources. Do you have any like podcasts or reading recommendations for the listeners, whether that's personal business or health related? Yeah, I have a lot. Gosh, I listen to podcasts almost every day I just finished a really neat challenge called 75 hard. Andy for Zola has this great challenge there his force form company where for 75 days you do pretty meticulous metric things with your life in hopes to gain positive clarity at the end. In all of those great things happen, it's two workouts a day one is 45 minutes inside when it's 45. Outside, rain, snow, sleet or shine. One is reading a book at night. 10 pages at least on business or self help. Drinking a gallon of water a day, being mindful about what foods you're eating so that you're not having cheat meals. They use the word diet and the poor gram. I don't use that word. I'm guessing you can understand why I think it's got a really big, like, it's a bummer word. I've actually had quite a long diet or no diet conversation with someone that someone that I want to connect you with. Okay, great, good. And then you take a photo each day, you're supposed to take like a progressive photo of how you're how you're changing. And I chose to do things like skin and hair nails. I didn't do my body. I really wanted to avoid that. I had some really cool metrics happen in my shape and in my size, but I didn't focus on that for the 75 days, but I added a podcast each day. My favorites were the mind body green podcast, which I think is just an awesome podcast, no matter how you eat. They interview some of the most amazing physician surgeons and RDS. My second favorite podcast is the goop podcast. This is mostly speaking to your female listeners because it's just a really savvy female, especially business leader podcast that has to do with fashion and fun and mom hood and all those things. I also like healthier together. It's a cute one by Liz moody. And they always have really fun recipes style discussions where you talk about what foods are out and trendy and how to make them I like that podcast a lot. But then books my three recommendations that I always give well to that I always given one that I'm reading right now. I think body love by Kelly Levine is a really great book. It's about what nutrients minerals and foods where we should put on our plate in order to really have a mental body love of yourself. I always recommend this book if someone asked me for nutrition services, and they don't have the income for an RD or to go to their doctor I say we'll just start with this book in hopes that they can find some answers. And my second favorite is more of a business book. It's by Christie, right? And it's called the business boutique. She comes from the highly reputable Dave Ramsey organization that sounded familiar. Yeah, that's exactly she has. And she is a female business coach that has a networking business group on Facebook. I did it last year. I think it's like $300. And you get weekly updates webinars with her conference calls with her. You do go to meetings, and then you do these projects. There's just an assignment every Monday and it's pretty great. But the book is phenomenal. I read it twice. When I built my brand and tried to figure out what is boom and really what isn't, boom, so I could really draw the line in the sand so that I knew what I wasn't. All of those tips and tricks came from the Christie right book. So I highly recommend that book. Now. Is that female heavy or what she's like, I'll tell you what she speaks to so to answer it, she speaks to people who have a side hustle that they want to turn into a real hustle which often in American career. is a woman. So it speaks to that. So it really was kind of like how do I make this basement business happen? And that was really important for me. And I'm sure some of your listeners have a side passion or a thing that happens in their garage or in their workshop. That's what she laser focus on. Very cool book. Yep. And your current, my current book that I'm reading is called the inflammation diet. And I think that the commonalities you hear people all the time talking about food that are saying, I omit this or I have celiac or I don't, I don't eat this category, but maybe haven't actually gone through a true functional medicine doctor testing or having an RD test them. This book teaches you the data and the science behind what omitting a portion of your diet is going to look like and how to do it safely and not a long amount of time. It's like four weeks, you take a quiz, you answer all these questions and it helps you with elimination suggestions. It's just a really smart read. It's by doctor will call. Very cool. Awesome, great. That's a lot of different types. Yeah, stuff too. I think there's definitely again, that variety, because if you were listening to only business podcasts or only business books gets kind of stale after a while, totally. And I've kind of gotten to that point I'm rereading a baseball history good free to like, yeah, totally random. You know what I needed a break from the norm. Absolutely. Very cool. So, obviously, boom is awesome, right? I've seen the space. I've seen the inside everything that you're telling me sounds amazing. Thank you. What anything else to share about how you guys are different? Obviously, there's a lot that you've already said. But is there anything else that we didn't talk about? Yeah, I mean, I guess maybe your listeners may be kind of wondering what it feels like to be in a session. And if you're in a group setting, there is sort of a dance atmosphere. It's a nod to my background of dance and there is a little bit of taught unison choreography. So we go through breaking down a movement into many modifications until we finally get the move. I call it the five layer So a move or a piece of choreography may have five moves or five angles in it, and we layer them in. So everyone feels like they're kind of growing together. And the great news is for anyone who comes new, now that we've been kind of seasoned as a business, someone in the room knows what they're doing. So you can watch them. And my arms are always moving as my legs and arms. So I'm right in the middle of it. I moved throughout all of the classes. I'm exhausted by the end of the day. That's a good good way. Good way to move. Yeah. Very cool. That's, that's probably that's probably the biggest question I get is like, what's a class like? Very cool. Well, thank you so much for being here. This has been awesome. I did one. One last question. I have one last question. Do you have anything to offer to our listeners, obviously, boom is great. But if they wanted to give it a try, what would be the best way they can get in contact? So we do have a website. It's www boom, polities life.com we have a schedule tab, you can go on our schedule tab and check out all the schedule for those group classes. Remember Number to keep an eye out for the essential level classes, that's a great place to start. And then when you click the class that you would like to choose, it'll take you through the setup profile on our website. At the very end screen when it asks you for payment. For your listeners, we have a Bogo offer, it's just as big Oh, and you'll buy one, get one, you'll get two classes. For one, we encourage you to again, start with the essential and then maybe a few, it was just not exactly we were looking for you use your free one on us to come to an intermediate. Very good. And that's live right now. Awesome. Well, thank you so much for offering that. That's awesome. And then if anyone's interested in privates, we always do a spiff of three privates for 165 for anyone to come in and meet with any of our instructors in the business and get one on one training. And that's a slower pace. And again, it includes that postural analysis. Very good. And obviously they're the the benefit there is the individualism, right? Yeah, everybody's going to be a little bit different. Yes, you can train multiple at the same time, but especially if they're brand new, or post injury, right. Yeah, they don't know. Exactly what to expect. They don't know what they're gonna get. And so having that individual session, you're gonna learn a lot about yourself, learn a lot about bodies and how to be better. Yeah. And my favorite part is that you get probe to ask questions. So we're probing you like different questions about that move. Tell me a little bit about how your spine felt with that, you know, where's your pelvis like, we were talking back and forth, so it's a little bit more interactive. Very good. Great. Anything else? Thank you for having me. This was fine. Absolutely. loved having you. We'll have to get together and share some nutrition folks, because we both have some contacts. I can't wait make the mutual content. Let's do it. All right. Thanks so much. Awesome. This has been STL active. Thank you for listening to the STL active podcast from St. Louis PT Comm. If you enjoyed the show, please spread the word. Thanks again and see you next time. Transcribed by https://otter.ai